Ethiopia to buy 18 Su-30 fighter jets |Vietnamese media

Photo -Sukhoi Su-30 fighter jets – Ethiopia

Eighteen Su-30K fighter jets that India returned to Russia, probably will not be sold to Vietnam, but instead is Ethiopia.

Deputy Group Director arms exporter Rosoboron Export, Alexander Mikheyev, said that Russia is negotiating to supply 18 Su-30K fighters to Ethiopia.

Eighteen multipurpose fighters were returned to India to replace the Russian fighter Su-30MKI is newer.

“We are in consultation with Ethiopia for the supply of the fighter. They have proposed a variant to modernize, enhance combat capability as well as the specification and provide additional tactics the rocket – to – land/sea more advanced,” said Mikheyev said.

The Rosoboronexport officials also stressed that, at present, four Su-30K first being repaired at a local aircraft factory.

“Just got the proposal from customers and financial resources, we are ready to upgrade and modernize all 18 Su-30K aircraft within 4-6 months,” he said Mikheyev.

Complete 18 Su-30K aircraft the IAF was not used in 10 years time, then returned to Russia. This aircraft was delivered to some 5 factories in Belarus to repair and upgrade, before being sold to 3rd party without giving back to Russia to avoid import taxes.

There has been much speculation about the fate of 18 Su-30K and its destination. There has been news that Belarus wants to buy the whole lot and that Russian planes do not extend credit to them (Belarus) to purchase the Group’s Irkut aircraft, then, a few other sources revealed that customer Nan is Vietnam after Vietnam military mission sent to check out a few planes.

Since then, no further information about the fate of this 18 Su-30K. However, the recent disclosure of Rosoboronexport Deputy Director General that Vietnam will not be a customer of 18 Su-30K aircraft, may be negotiated by the two parties, but does not meet requirements of each other, or maybe, Vietnam will not buy old planes instead is buying new aircraft Su-30 at a point.

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Source: Baodatviet (Vietnam) – July 3, 2013.

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  • Daniel- My last question and post: Where is the resent $11 billion dollar that just all of a sudden vanished from the Central Bank of Ethiopia?. Did it happen without the knowledge of the TLF and its leaders and or the leading Secret Service agents who are also from Tigray?
    These is not only corraption but a day time robbery by Azeb Mesfin and other top TLF party leadears. While mentioning about the TLF's Tsye Abrha, his brother and Generals Robery during and immidiately after the war aganist Eritrea, all the same you are deaf and mute about the huge amount of money robbed by the leading TLF leaders within the EPRDF. Or are you claiming that The Southern Peoples Nations and Nationalities, The Amara's, The Oromo's and or the Afar's that were behind all the grand roberies for the last 22 years?
    Similarly you did not comment about so many other issues including the illegal occupation of huge and fertile Amara territories from Bege Midir (Gonder) and Northern Wello by TPLF which

    M Amanuel L

  • As I said above in addition to the example I gave about South Korea, The Peoples Republic of China which was a poor agrrarian country with one party system has become the second largest economy in the world and if the economic growth continues, which it probably will then China is going to pass the U.S.A itself and become the first largest economy in the world.
    Parliamentary democracy and voting every 4 or five years like in Ghana, Nogeria and verry many developing countries but as well as in developed countries has time and again proved itself to be condicio sine qua non of civilisation and democracy. One don't need to be a nuclear physist to compare the accumilated facts of the past historical facts and contemporary events and make the right conclusion.
    Going back to the main issue of stregthning the Ethiopian millitary forces not only if attacked to defend but also unleash hell on earth on the enemies infrastructure and economy of the aggressor which is a solemn national and patriotic obligation of the Ethiopian government.
    Finally I want to urge The Ethiopian government not to buy the 18 suhoi 30K's which are not only an upgrade of Su- 27's but also have been used with flight kilometers (unknown) and parked and standing idle for 10 years rusting which are useful only in the scrap metal industry.

    Thank you Mr Daniel Berhane

    M.Amanuel L

  • One more last but extremely important issue: South Korea was ruled by millitary Generals in civilian clothes fro the end of the war in 1950's till 1984. It only became a multiparty system with a free and fair election only some 28-30 tears ago. By then when the multiparty system and election was held for the first time in South Koreas post war history, the country was highely industrialised and already challenging Japan in making cameras and other machineries and illiteracy, poverty was totally abolished. The people had proper housing, electricity, medical care, clean drinkable water and themodern communication infrastructure.
    On the other hand China an agrarian and poor country has transformed itself to the second largest and strongesdt economy in the world with a one party system. At the end of the day every 4 or 5 years voting and or a multi party system is not necessarly the solution for develpment and well being of any country. In fact at times parliamentary "democracy" is a si quo non of civilisation.
    Thank you

    M.Amanuel L

    • Amanuel, South Korea wasn't challenging Japan 20 to 30 years. Even currently, South K economy is ranked 15th by its nominal GDP in the world.
      Advocating for few military officials to determine the country future is totally an acceptable. 90 million Ethiopians think better than some corrupted officials.

      Do you know what some generals did in Ethio-Erirtrea war.?The public including poor Ethiopian farmers donated money and cattles to defend our country from Shabia aggression, but few corrupted generals invested the donation for themselves. So, please don't encourage a system of corruption.

      • Daniel- I think there is a misunderstanding here. First, I am not in anyway advocating South Korea's millitary or any millitary officials for that mater to determine the country future but the fact in the ground. Second, I am also very much aware of what the then Seye Abraha, his brother and other Generals did after Shabia's aggression was over by the late PM's decission not to enter Asmera. If you raise this question then why did't you raise the question of corraption then why didn't you raise from where the undisclosed hunderds of millions of dollars or maybe even billions that the late PM's wife is in charge of under the name the endowment fund for Tigray? Why did,t you raise the question of the 14-story African Union Grand Hotel, whose architect is Simon Barakat Architects- Where did the money came from? Everything indicates that the technocrats and politicians in leadership possition of the TLF have been accumilating wealth for the last 22 years which has been benifiting exclussively themselves and Tigray.
        All I was trying to say was that having a multiparty system or holding parliamentary and PM or Presidential elections have both historically and in the conteporary world proved to be not only a failure but has led the dominating majority of the illitrate and poor people into abjuct poverty as I mentioned Ghana with a huge income from crude oil export as exampple and hence it is not necessarly elections every 4 or 5 years that lift the people out of illitracy and poverty. Furthermore, I have also mentioned the sucess story of China. China with a one party system which was a poor agrarian country has transformed itself within 30 years to the worlds largest economy and if the econoimy is going to continue growing even at half numbers than today, then China will definately be the first largest economy in the world within the coming 25 to 30 years. I expect you know that the U.S.A still owe China $15 trillion plus interest.
        As far as Samsung is concerned Samsung Techwin is a surveillance, aeronautics, opteoelectronic, automations and weapons technology company and It is a subsidiary of Samsung Group which was founded in 1977 while South Korea was still ruled by the millitary. Here again I am not arguing if they have enriched themselves by stealing the countries wealth because I don't know, maybe they have maybe they haven't. But certainely illitracy, housing, electricity, clean drinkable water, health care system and modern education was already established while South Korea was still ruled by Generals till 1980's.
        And, by 1980's when Japan was not willing to cooperate with South Korea on Camera lens technology and transfer of technology, Soth Korea in Cooperation with General Electrics started producing and exporting cameras to European markets challenging Japan and by 1997-2009 already compiting directely with Japans camera industry. In technical cooperation with General Electric, it started manufacturing Jet engines for Korean aircraft in 1980. In 1996 it began selling digital cameras branded as Samsung Kenox in 1997 and the same year, it made the first KF-16 fighter jet in Soth Korea. Samsung Android cell phones today are selling better than Japans Sony weather we like it or not. Concerning the index that you presented I am not aware of it and so I can not comment about it. In technical cooperation with General Electric, it started manufacturing Jet engines for Korean aircraft in 1980. In 1996 it began selling digital cameras branded as Samsung Kenox in 1997 and the same year, it made the first KF-16 fighter jet in Soth Korea.
        The conclusion I wanted to make and I am trying to present is that opposition groups like Gingot 7 of Berhanu Nega and his followers and with their OLF allience on the one hand advocating for ”democracy” and on the other hand advocating violence and religious divisions and supporting fundamentalist Islamists in his speach and interview where Berhanu is also seems to be obssed with the example of Ghana about which I have presented the fact above is not going to benifit the Ethioopian people.
        I also want to repeat the same thing that multiparty system and or holding elections every 4-5 years has been proven to be a condicio sine qua non of democracy and civilisation.
        So please do not cherry pick certain phrases out of my post and accuse me unjustely.
        Now I am done and I am not going to go back and forth with these issues raised from the begning to the present. I will read your other publications in the future and leave the issues I wrote in this blog for readers to check out the facts for themselves.

        Thank you
        M AmanuelL

      • TO Lencho Leta
        Koldaa(Ilkaan gara Raasa Dabe)
        “No matter what happens, always be yourself”
        By Guri Yasyas
        It is working now for ODF that created by nonsense Lencho
        A certain O.P.D.O of a Woyyane had to learn that lesson the hard way. She /he longed to be a singer. But her/his face was her/his misfortune .O.P.D.O had a large mouth and protruding buck teeth. When O.P.D.O first sang in public in Woyyane night club O.P.D.O tried to pull down her upper lip to cover her teeth. O.P.D.O tried to act “glamorous”. The result?. O.P.D.O made itself ridiculous.
        However, there was a man in this night club who heard the O.P.D.O sing and thought she had talent. “See here”, he said bluntly, “I’ve been watching your performance and I know what it is you are trying to hide. You are ashamed of your teeth”. The O.P.D.O was embarrassed, but the man continued “what of it? Is there any particular crime in having buck teeth? Don’t try to hide them! Open your mouth
        O.P.D.O waste 21 years worrying b/c to be like Woyyane. The science of genetics informs us that you are what you are largely as a result of 24 chromosomes contributed by your father and 24 chromosomes contributed by your mother. These 48 chromosomes comprise everything that determines what you inherit. In each chromosome of O.P.D.O there be, says Meles Zenawi
        Even after O.P.D.O mother and father (T.P.L.F) met and mated, there was only one chance in 300,000 million that the person who is specifically O.P.D.O would be born! In other words, if you had 300,000million brothers and sisters, they might have all been different from O.P.D.O.If you like to read more about it, go to your Woyyane library and borrow a book entitled O.P.D.O and T.P.L.F, by Meles Zenawi
        I can talk with conviction about this subject of being yourself b/c I feel deeply about it. I know what I, am talking about. I know from bitter and costly experience.
        Be Waaqeffataa Of Oromo which makes Oromo One
        Oromo Guri Yasyas

  • Kemela- About Ginbot 7 (ALEJE) or the so called movment for justice, freedom and democracy.
    Allow me Mr Daniel Berhane to reply to Kemela's question.
    Now I have done my homework and can reply to your irrelevevant comparisin and opinion

    1. I found out from the official web site of Ginbot 7 that Berhanu Nega who was the member of Kinijit in 1997 and was running for election is the chairman of this organisation ridiculously called the movment for justce, freedom and democracy. Berhanu Nega is in the first place a U.S citizen and must never be allowed and will never have any place in any political post in Ethiopia. In fact the Ethiopian government must declare that this this thug must be given a persona non grata status tha same way as Kemal Geltu. He is not only a bigot but is also a bought agent and dog for the Eritrean regim and personally for Isayass where Berhanu has admited recieving $500.000 from Isayass. According to knowladgable person he and his ally the former general Kemal Geltu who defected with some 187 soldiers to Eritrea according to July. 21 2012 Communique of ALEJE & this yet new OLFhave consollidated allience.
    1. Democracy: Let us begin with the opinion of Berhanu Nega in 1997. He was of the oppinion that there must be a privatisation of land, Banks, Hydropowerplants etc. Well it seems that Adam Smith theory is his bible. What is his plan for the dominating Ethipians who are freed from chattle slavery in Ethiopia? If land is going to be fully privatised then without a shadow of a doubt the dominating majority of Ethiopians are going back to servitude and chattle slavery and two it will definately trigger not only malnutration but also will definately lead the country into another cycle of famine. He has been been scapegoating Amaras for the all the injustice in the past. Whereas the the fact of the matter is Amaras were scapegoated and crucified for the unjust done by others. Hailesselassie was by any standard not an Amara, his mother was the daughter of Ali Aba Jiffar of Wellega an Oromo and his father Mekonen was only on his grandfathers side half Amara and half Oromo. As far as the ministers, governores, mayors are concerned the dominating majority were Oromo's with Amara name, but there were Eritreans, Tigryans, Amaras, Wellaita's where the desicion making power always rested on the kings decissions and his selected advisors who were exclussively Oromo origin with Amara names. Here I want to raise a very immportant issue that why do the majority Ethiopians including Berhanu Nega who is a Welaita from Sodo town has an Amara name? And why do Oromos, Tigryans, Wellaitans and others from the Southern peoples Nation and Nationalities still today continue to give their children Amara names?. Amaras never had and certainely no authority to impose on all the different ethnic groups to adapt Amara names. Or do they?
    In an interview with ESAT ”TIKURET” Berhanu Nega eiother deliberately or out of iggnorance is talking about individual right and individual freedom, ”democracy”, religioous issues and violence but also argues how democracy works in Ghana.
    Let us start fro Ghana. Either Berhanu is a habitual liar or is ignorant of the situation in the ground in Ghana today. In Ghana when Air Force pilot Jerry Rollings took power by coup de etet because Ghana was becoming much more corrupted even worse than Nigeria, he told the people that he is not interseted in staying in power but rather wants to held a referendum on multiple issues among others what the people want? A multiparty system or a one part sytem, Capitalism with private ownership, a Social Democratic path or Socialism?. The people held a referendum and the result was: 1. They voted for a multi-party system and a mixed type of economy (similar to Social Democratic style like in Scandinavian countries) with a free right for small and medium sized enterprizes. Then Jerry Rollings unlike many military dictators kept his word and told the people to organise under any party system they want to. Election was held within a year and a free and fair election Jerry Rollings party won and according to the constitution drafted he served two terms and in the third election he handed over power to Kufuor who won the election. During the same period oil was discovered in Ghana and corruption became once again rampant. In fact it get worse when power again in a free and fair election transfered to Proffessor Millis Ghana became as corrupt as Nigeria with no significant Infrastructure getting built in the country and situation today after the death of Mills who was constitutionally replaced by his vice President J. Maheme 1% of the Ghanian elite has become so reach that there already who own private jets whereas the situation for the majority of the population became worse than then when Jerry Rollings was the president og´f Ghana without any oil reveniew. Today the 99% Ghanians live in abject poverty with no electricity, decent communication infrastructure, without any health coverage, schools or decent housding etc. Etc.Needless to mention Kemal Geltu even Birhanu Nega either purposely confussing the layman Ethiopians or becuse he has remained a natural born liar still today talks (ESAT TIKURET) interview about individual right type of democracy where if the individual have the rights he/she is also have obligations. Which means he is actually talking about a democracic form of governance of Individual Right and Individual Obligation in other words a developed form of democracy what is also known by the name Constitutional Democracy. This type of a develop form of democracy exist partly in Canada, Norway, Sweeden and Denmark. It took this countries to reach this goal almost 78 years. Individual right and individual obligation means that each and every individual has the right for decent housing, clean dribkable water, 24 hours a day and throughout the year electricity, medical service (from vaccination to free kindergarten) and school/ University education, Compensation salery if all of a sudden loose their jobs, social security finances for those who can't afford to buy or rent a place to live, financial assistance not only for medical service but the cost for drugs as well as assistance if they are dependent on smoking cigarette, medical assistance and rehabilitation programm if they are drug addicts etc.etc. Etc...
    Such a democratic process takes time. But if he is serious while giving Ghana as an example then only casting votes every four or five years certainely has proved to be not only undemocratic but also retrogrde regression.
    In Britain Wemen were allowed to cast their vote for the first time in 1921.
    Even if we concider about voting rights. It was in 1965 that Dr. Martin Luter King Jr. Mounts a voter registration drive in Selma, Alabama, to draw national attention to African-American voting rights. In 1965 The voting rights Act protects the rights of minority voters and the Act is expanded and renewed in 1970, 1975, and 1982. But still today even in the last election the Sate of Florida by manupilating and presenting irrelevant arguements hindered districts with majority African-American population from voting and the samething happened when George W. Bush run aganis Al Gore though a little bit with different manipulations and tactics.
    2. Birhanu without even mentioning that politicacs and religion are separate by the constitution all the same is supporting those that were trying to escalate the tense situation financed by his indirect masters the Saudi's in an attempt to create a salafist Islamic brotherhood type of sunni fanaticas he continues to support their cause in an attempt to create unrest and violence. Even Sheik Muhammed Al Amoudi who is a Saudi citizen (also an Ethiopian citizen) have said repeatedely that Ethiopia is a country of religious tolerance. But then came dogs of war and unrest who wanted to enrich themselves that started cooperating with countries that bhave been the heriditary enemies of Ethiopia whose aspiration Birhanu and his party sympathizes.
    3. Birhanu claims that majority of the fighters are from Tigray. Nonsence. The fact of the matter is in the Ethiopianj military operation those that are taken as prisonores of war were Eritreans and not Tigryans. Furthermore, if The alliance of Ginbot 7 ( ALEJE) Berhanu/his supporters and OLF Kemal Geltu and his followers assisted by their Arab masters and their dog Isayass. Just remember that Ethiopians have succefully crossed the border several times recentely and have sucessfully destroyed terrorist camps inside Eritrean territory which probably was a millitary campaign aganist these particular terrorist organisations of the allied ALEJE and OLF inside Eritrea.

    M Amanuel L

    • Bekkuma - I did not even realise you made such a comment. Less I care that withdraw your comment. I am just a concernen Ethiopian for his motherland and I not interested in any position at all.I have my own profession and investments that keeps me very busy. I just happened to be on vaccation so rest assured that what interest me is what I do and help sometime soon God willing I want to invest together a couple of multi millioner friend of mine in Ethiopia ans we intend to buy bonds for the GERD with no interset and we also are individually ready to continue doing the same as the Ethiopian government keeps its oath to realise and accomplish whta the late PM Meles Zenawi has underlined and namely build 4-5(?) more huge Dams with a capacity of producing 4500-5000 MWt electricity.
      Kemela- You are entitled to your oppinion but I still stick with my opinion. Ethiopia is struggling to make ends meet and the Ethiopian people MUST be the primary benificiaries of each and every achievment and must have the priority to get education, decent housing, clean drinkable water, health service and care and electricity. Ethiopia don't own a damn thing to Somalia and Somalis on the contrary Somalis own Ethiopians for bleeding blood of streems and rivers to defend Ethiopia from their centuries old aggressions which Ethiopians forgiving them have given them assylem and also this time have bledeed blood of vrivers in an effort to stabilise their country and thus now since Somalia is getting stabilised they must return back and contribute to the stability and development of their country either volentarily or be deported. And or they have the choice to immigrate to Europe, America, Australia that is upto them. Somalis and Ethiopians can and hopefully will develop a lasting good/excellent and peaceful relationship in the future. That will be enough.

      This will be my last response to both of you and civility and presenting once opinion in a rational, civilised and realistic way is important.

      Thank you
      M.Amanuel L

      • Bekkuma – I did not even realise you made such a comment. Less I care that withdraw your comment. I am just a concerned Ethiopian for his motherland and I not interested in any position at all. I have my own profession and investments that keeps me very busy. I just happened to be on vaccation so rest assured that what interest me is what I do and contribute my share to The GERD and sometime soon God willing I want to invest together with a couple of multi millioner friends of mine in Ethiopia and we also intend to buy bonds not only for the GERD with no interset and we also are individually ready to continue doing the same as the Ethiopian government keeps its oath to realise and accomplish what the late PM Meles Zenawi has underlined and namely to build 4-5(?) more huge Dams in the course of Abay with a capacity of producing 4500-5000 MWt electricity.
        Kemela- You are entitled to your oppinion but I still stick with my opinion. Ethiopia is struggling to make ends meet and the Ethiopian people MUST be the primary benificiaries of each and every achievment and must have the priority to get education, decent housing, clean drinkable water, health service/ care and electricity.
        Ethiopia don’t own a damn thing to Somalia and Somalis on the contrary Somalis owe Ethiopians for bleeding blood of streems and rivers to defend Ethiopia from their centuries old aggressions which Ethiopians forgiving them have given them not only assylem and also this time have bledeed blood of rivers in an effort to stabilise their country and thus now since Somalia is getting stabilised they must return back and contribute to the stability and development of their country either volentarily or be deported. And or they have the choice to immigrate to Europe, America, Australia that is upto them. Somalis and Ethiopians can and hopefully will develop a lasting good/excellent and peaceful relationship in the future. That will be enough.

        This will be my last response to both of you and civility and presenting once opinion in a rational, civilised and realistic way is important.

        Thank you
        M.Amanuel L

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